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Jimi Bostock

PROJECT PROPOSALS, whole page, replying to Stephen Collins

Stephen, why be so uptight about tools being discussed?

Just because it is not where you come from in your skill sets does not mean that there is some magical anointed time to start thinking abut them

Members of my team are lurking on this gov2.0 site and they are talking tools and such things.

Stop suggesting that their natural predilection to be reflecting of the wonderful knowledge they have is irrelevant.

The only danger now is if the talking keeps going too long and no action is done, the whole thing will be derailed (again:)

Like James, I think there needs to be some seed money for a few pilots to prove things can be done. And, like Anna, I fear that the thinking is skewing to solutions and thus tools, and away from culture and education. So, I am keen to see work done on the cultural and educational hurdles as I think that these are the most pressing. As such, you have my vote (and bid, to be honest) for those projects above any other.

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Posted August 19, 2009  12:58 pm
PROJECT PROPOSALS, whole page, replying to Fiona Cameron

I can not disagree more strongly with Fiona.

Her ideas for procurement are just so wrong for the things we are trying to do.

The competition idea will allow for a whole lot of smaller exemplars that, I might add, will be surprisingly scalable and changeable.

If the govt goes down the road that Fiona suggests, I will be leaving the space to the IBM, CSC, etc of the world to stuff up and I will get on with looking for clients keen to have a crack.

You see, while the TF is a great thing, it ain’t the only action going on and things will be done entirely outside of this framework.

So, I say that we must not do what Fiona says.

While I agree with Stephen and Anna that cultural shift is a prerequisite, I think readily accessible and affordable tools are also a threshold issue. My 'wish' is for the Taskforce to research, design and establish a centralised website for policy development and consultation, called “Talk to Government”, which provides free access to a really well designed but basic level of web 2.0 consultation, feedback and collaboration tools for Governments at all levels. It could start simply, with a forum tool (like Bang the Table) for traditional “here is a proposal, what do you think” style consultation, and be gradually expanded to include a wiki tool for collaborative policy development (like Future Melbourne) and a more open ended ideas gathering and/or feedback site (like ObamaCTO, with voting or NHS hospitals feedback in the UK). How do we develop the basic site tools? I’m not convinced that the competition approach is the best one for this project. We want these basic tools to be the best they possibly can be, if government departments are to be persuaded to use it. I think an approach harnessing commercial competition would be preferable. At the moment "many flowers are blooming" as companies step up to address the needs of different government agencies for these tools. A competitive tender, where the tenderers can address one or more of the tool types could result in, say, three successful tenderers providing the different tools hosted on the one site. The companies would be required to collaborate to harmonise their user interfaces, but would support their own section of the site. The basic site tools could come with optional pay-for-use add ons, such as project planning, moderation, results collation and analysis. Use of the centralised site would not be limited to the basic tools available on the site. If a Government agency had sufficient funds and motivation, they could develop or use a more tailored product, and link into the Talk to Government website to increase their reach. Or if the Governments were willing to fund it, the site could offer 24/7 monitoring and moderation. By centralising moderation at one "Talk to government" location, you would get good economies of scale. By centralising all Government policy consultations at one suitably searchable website, you would maximise audience reach. You would also minimise the barriers presented by users having to learn to interact with too many different styles of technology. The absolutely critical factor is affordability to government at all levels - with tight budgets, no government agency I know can afford to increase the costs of consultation, regardless of how much it increases the effectiveness or transparency of the process. but the first barrier that has to be overcome is the reluctance of government to innovate.

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Posted August 19, 2009  12:54 pm
PROJECT PROPOSALS, paragraph 5

I have worked with all three agencies, where do I sign up?

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Posted August 18, 2009  11:01 am
PROJECT PROPOSALS, paragraph 3, replying to elton

Elton, just say something.

This is not some poll about whether Kyle is a jerk. This is serious stuff that will impact on our children’s future. Get stuck in and tell the TF why you agree or disagree.

Don’t lose sight that this is really an unprecedented opportunity to engage with a key govt initiative

+1 vote for this. Where's the little I agree/disagree button so I can just vote for the ones I like without having to leave comments ; - )

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Posted August 18, 2009  10:58 am
PROJECT PROPOSALS, paragraph 10

Yes, yes, yes !!

This is the nub of the future and the place where we can really value add the APS for the people of Oz.

I think TF needs to consider creating some guidelines for this to ensure that the digital industry is, at least partly, in the drivers seat.

There could be a mix of agency driven and industry driven projects. Perhaps with the latter being about firms or individuals being ‘approved’ by the TF (based on their long standing role in the digital space) and these then being able to pitch and discuss their ideas to the agency.

Of course, I would be looking to be in that activity and I already have a corker of an idea that is both web 1,2, and 3.

Thanks for listening and looking forward to the starting gun.

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Posted August 18, 2009  10:56 am
PROJECT PROPOSALS, whole page

These all sound very important and worthwhile. Most of all I am glad to see that the gov 3.0 is getting support (and it will be the area I will be most interested in).

All ticks from me

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Posted August 18, 2009  10:49 am